First furret card in 5 years. I wonder if certain pokemon get chosen for IRs because it’s understood they wont get another card for several years. It feels a little arbitrary sometimes.
This ruling was probably figured out from a Q&A on the Japanese website. The Q&A explained what happens when you use Pachirisu’s Trick Sticker attack against your opponent’s Active Pokémon, then follow up next turn with BKP Zebstrika’s Crashing Bolt attack. The answer said Crashing Bolt would deal 100 damage. (That’s 50 damage doubled because of Weakness.)
That’s interesting because Zebstrika has an Ability that says damage from your Lightning-type Pokémon’s attacks “isn’t affected by any effects on your opponent’s Active Pokémon.” So if changing a Pokemon’s Weakness counted as an “effect,” Zebstrika’s Ability should ignore it. But the Weakness actually did apply, which suggests that changing Weakness isn’t considered an “effect” at all.
There were later discussions about whether changing other parts of a card count as “effects” or not, like a Pokemon’s type, HP, Resistance, or Retreat Cost. But those conversations might’ve happened across the pages for a number of…
mico
I remember a discussion referencing this card on Weakness changes not being considered an effect, but couldn’t find it.
someone
I agree, but a broken strategy would be to have 4 of these, but when one’s in your discard pile, you just put it into your hand or shuffle it into your deck. This would basically be 4 masterballs.
baba
I think they could bring this card back by reworking the card to search the deck or a discard pile for a Pokémon without a rule box instead. The drawback is really cool and encourages you to find ways to recycle it back in to your hand. This would be a strong effect, which gives support to strategies not relying on ex (or whatever is the current extra prize Pokémon title).
Don’t forget about Wally’s Compassion: “Heal all damage from 1 of your Mega Evolution Pokémon ex. If you healed any damage in this way, put all Energy attached to that Pokémon into your hand”
Pual
First furret card in 5 years. I wonder if certain pokemon get chosen for IRs because it’s understood they wont get another card for several years. It feels a little arbitrary sometimes.
Bbb888
Then that makes it precious and special so much that investor bros and investor sis should be all over this card to pump up its value to the max!!!
Pual
I don’t think this ability would stop a festival grounds deck at all.
Pual
There is metal saucer which has the same effect as the patches. And tcg pocket has a flame patch, which I bet we’ll see in physical tcg eventually.
anon-san
valid.
someone
No wait, it just feels off since it’s on the right side, not the left like newer cards.
someone
Is it just me or does the font for the text “Supporter” look wrong?
someone
Weirdly enough, this is the only psychic type alolan grimer.
someone
I wonder if other patches are going to be printed, cause this is only the 3rd.
mico
For reference the counter chain goes like this:
Dusknoir wants to KO itself
Twylis
We’re actually almost getting exactly that in Nihil Zero, but without any discard-pile-related elements:
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Pad_(Start_Deck_100_Battle_Collection_662)
The lack of any discard cost or other restrictions makes it kinda overpowered imo, but I guess non-rule-box pokemon always appreciate support.
anon-san
but it doesn’t knock itself out.
Vanilla Baby
this card goes crazy with ampharos ex
Squirchampion
This ruling was probably figured out from a Q&A on the Japanese website. The Q&A explained what happens when you use Pachirisu’s Trick Sticker attack against your opponent’s Active Pokémon, then follow up next turn with BKP Zebstrika’s Crashing Bolt attack. The answer said Crashing Bolt would deal 100 damage. (That’s 50 damage doubled because of Weakness.)
That’s interesting because Zebstrika has an Ability that says damage from your Lightning-type Pokémon’s attacks “isn’t affected by any effects on your opponent’s Active Pokémon.” So if changing a Pokemon’s Weakness counted as an “effect,” Zebstrika’s Ability should ignore it. But the Weakness actually did apply, which suggests that changing Weakness isn’t considered an “effect” at all.
There were later discussions about whether changing other parts of a card count as “effects” or not, like a Pokemon’s type, HP, Resistance, or Retreat Cost. But those conversations might’ve happened across the pages for a number of…
mico
I remember a discussion referencing this card on Weakness changes not being considered an effect, but couldn’t find it.
someone
I agree, but a broken strategy would be to have 4 of these, but when one’s in your discard pile, you just put it into your hand or shuffle it into your deck. This would basically be 4 masterballs.
baba
I think they could bring this card back by reworking the card to search the deck or a discard pile for a Pokémon without a rule box instead. The drawback is really cool and encourages you to find ways to recycle it back in to your hand. This would be a strong effect, which gives support to strategies not relying on ex (or whatever is the current extra prize Pokémon title).
Gholdengo
Good counter for Festival Grounds.
Gholdengo
Don’t forget about Wally’s Compassion: “Heal all damage from 1 of your Mega Evolution Pokémon ex. If you healed any damage in this way, put all Energy attached to that Pokémon into your hand”
Gholdengo
But you can gust Jelicent and then use items. I’ve had more trouble with Frillish.