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Pokémon Power ⇢ Energy Burn
As often as you like during your turn (before your attack), you may turn all Energy attached to Charizard into {R} Energy for the rest of the turn. This power can’t be used if Charizard is Asleep, Confused, or Paralyzed.
{R}{R}{R}{R} → Fire Spin : 100
Discard 2 Energy cards attached to Charizard in order to use this attack.
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Spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders. Known to unintentionally cause forest fires.
Nosredna
After all these years I only just now realized if an Energy is converted into Fire Energy by that Power, it remains a Fire Energy even when moved to another Pokémon.
linkinboss
Hmm… I’m not sure if that’s necessarily the case, the power doesn’t specify what happens with the energies when they are not attached to Charizard, so it could be read both ways.
Ambassador
I’d imagine they remain Fire Energy.
https://compendium.pokegym.net/ruling/666/
Closest thing I can find to a relevant ruling.
linkinboss
Under WOTC ruling probably… but we know their rulings weren’t exactly faithful to the japanese game design, that’s why I’m wondering
Ambassador
The original text of the power looks like it’s worded differently, you might be right in it being one of WOTC’s many mistakes. Rocket Charmander is in TCG GB2, I might try this out sooner or later and report back.
Nos
According to the video game: yes, you can move a DCE from Charizard to Charmander.
Ambassador
Does it still count as Fire Energy?
brken11
Yeah, the original Japanese just seems to read “Lizardon can treat its energy other than Fire as Fire energy. This can’t be used when confused.”
Ignis
If the video game is a reliable source for the rules, Nos is indeed right, you can move the DCE to Charmander. It does no longer count as Fire Energy, as you cannot attack.
Ambassador
Thanks for checking this! It’s neat to know that the most famous Pokémon card acts as a proud testament to WOTC’s systemic incompetence in translation..
Nos
The fact that Blaine’s Charizard had a clause referring to energy that provided 2 [R] made me curious about this Zard and how it interacted with DCE that had been moved off of it. Glad we got to the bottom of it though.
( I know Electrode can also provide 2 [R] energy, but I thought maybe there could be other examples of it in this era)
JP
Pokemon Card Official Book 2000 (p. 66) has this for the text of Energy Burn:
この力は、自分の番の中で何度でも使える。このカードについているすべてのエネルギーは「炎」エネルギーになり、自分の番の終わりにもとにもどる。このカードが「ねむり・マヒ・こんらん」状態のとき、この力は使えない。
Which Google Translate gives as:
This power can be used as many times as you like during your turn. All energy attached to this card becomes “fire” energy and returns to normal at the end of your turn. This power cannot be used when this card is in a “sleepy/paralyzed/contemplative” state.
It seems like a similar situation to Jungle Eevee–the original text effect doesn’t match the Wizards card, but the effect was later updated and that’s the effect that appears both in the Official Book as well as, presumably, being the source for the English translation. Certainly the English we got isn’t a flagrant mistranslation!
As to why the GB 2 game reverts Energy Burned Energy to its original type, I’m not sure. Maybe it’s a programming oversight, or maybe it’s really supposed to work that way… From the card text alone, it’s still ambiguous what happens to the “Burned” Energy if it’s still in play but no longer attached to Charizard.
AJ
I just think that the cosmo holo on these cards of base set 2, are just so much better than the star pattern holo of original base to fossil.
Bbb888
Personally I much prefer the holo effects of Base Set to Fossil because they have sort of deep 3D effect if you look closely in person!!