Lt. Surge’s Electrode · Gym Challenge (G2) #52

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   feyblade

   (9 years ago)

   As AWESOME as it would be otherwise, Shock Blast cannot trigger another Shock Blast, due to errata. What a shame.

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   Blob Takeshi

   (5 years ago)

   Wait, so for once TAILS is good?!

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     100000VoltsBlob Takeshi

     (5 years ago)

     I thought that started in the Team Rocket. Dark Dugtrio for example.

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   Nos

   (5 days ago)

   Is the damage from this Pokemon Power affected by Weakness and Resistance?

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     TwylisNos

     (5 days ago)

     I don’t know of any actual rulings to back it up, but I’d say no, since weakness and resistance are game mechanics connected specifically to attacks. Even if a Power/Ability/etc did damage, since it’s not an attack, I don’t think it would use weakness or resistance.

     Though I did discover that Neo Destiny’s Unown C tells you to use weakness and resistance on its Power, despite the fact that that’s impossible since it only places a damage counter rather than doing damage. Probably forgot the “do not” I guess?

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       televisionnationTwylis

       (5 days ago)

       I was curious so I looked up the original Japanese text for Neo Destiny’s Unown C. The “Apply Weakness and Resistance” is not in the Japanese text, it was erroneously added in the English translation.

       An errata was issued to exclude the line: https://compendium.pokegym.net/compendium.html

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       NosTwylis

       (5 days ago)

       I wasn’t sure, since Dark Golbat from Team Rocket actually does typed damage with its Pokemon Power (to the bench no less, talk about abnormal). So I thought maybe this would be the same. Though Dark Golbat specifically mentions it (though like I mentioned, it can target the bench, so that kind of clarification would be needed since Weakness and Resistance aren’t usually in play for benched damage)

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         NosNos

         (5 days ago)

         Doing a little more research, the Japanese print of Dark Golbat specifies not to apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon, making me think that damage from Pokemon Powers is affected by W & R. Not many cards actually do real damage from Pokemon Powers/Poke-Powers/Abilities. So it’s not easy to find modern equivalence.

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           televisionnationNos

           (5 days ago)

           The Japanese Dark Golbat doesn’t say anything about benched Pokémon, it just says not to apply W&R in general. Both it’s attack & Pokémon Power have the same phrasing of “choose one of your opponent’s Pokémon”.

           I’m going to say that Pokémon Power damage is not affected by Weakness & Resistance given how clearly it’s spelled out on Base Set Machamp (the Japanese version of Base Set Machamp also says not to apply W&R). This was at a time when this extra ruling info was printed on cards to be helpful since people wouldn’t necessarily know to not apply W&R for Pokémon Powers or attacks hitting the bench.

           Lt. Surge’s Electrode may be lacking the text to not apply W&R (in Japanese as well) because at the time the gamemakers are assuming players knew the rules, but I would guess it’s a matter of saving space since the text is already long. The Unown C & Dark Golbat both having similar translation errors is still interesting.