Mew · Holon Phantoms (HP) #111

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   Blob Takeshi

   (7 years ago)

   I guess Mew went on an Expedition to go to Holon.

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   Ambassador

   (1 year ago)

   This card is noted on some fansites as being a reprint of Expedition Mew. Ehh. The differences in the text of Super Psywave are obvious – for both the JP and EN print the attack has been buffed, doing damage times the amount of Energy vs the amount of Energy cards.

   More critically, if less obvious, is that the second attack has been omitted. While Expedition Mew’s Strange Wave was only accessible via scanning the card through the e-Reader, at least in Japan the long strip attacks were tournament legal (and actually seem to have been encouraged). While a possible reason for the omission seems obvious – the attack had a 33%/33%/33% chance of Paralysis/Poison/Burn, odds that are difficult to replicate with coin flips* – it’s still an omission, and I wouldn’t consider this the same card from a gameplay perspective.

   * Incidentally, I am pretty sure there are cards that use 2 (or 3 coin?) flips and have three different outcomes that end up working out to 33/33/33 split odds, but I’m blanking on examples of such. If someone can point one out I’d appreciate it!

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     TwylisAmbassador

     (1 year ago)

     A six-sided die could handle it: 1 or 2 for the first effect, 3 or 4 for the second effect, and 5 or 6 for the third.

     Though it’s curious it doesn’t appear to have any system included for use. How were e-Reader attacks actually used in practice, anyway? Were players expected to have an e-Reader to scan the cards with during gameplay, print them out beforehand, or what?

     As for multi-coin effects, there’s Dark Venusaur and Stormfront Tangrowth. Tangrowth is more like two effects with the possibility of both though, and Dark Venusaur has a higher chance of the 1-heads-1-tails outcome.

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       TwylisTwylis

       (1 year ago)

       Oh, and Mysterious Treasures Meganium is another example of the Tangrowth route, but with three effects potentially coexisting instead of two (and thus three coins). I suspect there’s no way to elegantly do a 33/33/33 split odds with only coins though; Dark Venusaur’s 50/25/25 might be the closest you can feasibly get.

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         AmbassadorTwylis

         (1 year ago)

         re: e-Reader at organized events. The anecdotes I read a few months ago (didn’t bookmark them) didn’t elaborate beyond saying they “were there”. I’m left the impression a GBA+e-Reader was floating around at organized events to show the product off and the fact some cards had attacks on the long strip helped with the synergy of getting people interested in buying one for themselves.

         In terms of how many were floating around per event, whether they were made available at smaller, local leagues, and if there’d be any problem if someone brought their own GBA+e-Reader, I don’t know. I’d assume it would’ve been fine? (To me, it wouldn’t have made sense for it to not be ok? “hey remember when we showed you the e-Reader at a sanctioned event and showed you some Pokémon cards with secret attacks and it seemed exciting to buy your own e-Reader so you can find out what other cards have secret attacks you might be able to use? yeah we changed our minds you can’t bring your own e-Reader to sanctioned events” But eh.)

         Doing some digging I had some bad info on Mew’s Strange Wave attack. It’s not an even 33/33/33, it also had a chance to Sleep, Confuse, and/or Burn+Confuse, and the odds weren’t evenly split 1/6. If Bulbapedia is correct, it looks like it’d RNG a number from 00–99 and the results were;

         00-14 Poison
         15-29 Burn
         30-77 Sleep
         78-87 Paralyze
         88-97 Confuse
         98-99 Burn+Confuse

         And on the last point, I think I was actually thinking of MT Meganium, and I obviously misremembered, as that doesn’t work out to 33/33/33. 50/25/25 does seem the most viable.

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