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Pokémon with a Rule Box in play (both yours and your opponent’s) have no Abilities. (Pokémon V, Pokémon-GX, etc. have Rule Boxes.)
· Stadium rule: This Stadium stays in play when you play it. Discard it if another Stadium comes into play. If a Stadium with the same name is in play, you can’t play this card.
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Jiří z Poděbrad
A perk of using Aerodactyl VSTAR over P.T.T.P. is that her VSTAR move shuts down only *your opponent*… leaving you free to still use your own Lumineon V, Crobat V, Radiant ‘mon, etc.
Tatu chín đai
The release of this stadium card in 2021 basically killed Eternatus VMAX decks (which had been popular in mid/late 2020), didn’t it?
Jiří z Poděbrad
Yeah — it also killed the vibe of fun-ability-Pokémon V from 2020, like Pincurchin V and Galarian Stunfisk V
Foon-Gus Fring
Looks like the new VSTAR tool cards in Silver Tempest will bypass Path…
https://mobile.twitter.com/jakekgearhart/status/1580799840367542272
Ambassador
Jake is oversimplifying things. Japan doesn’t use their Q&A as a “rulings” compendium the way the English branch of organized competitive does, rather it exists as a helpful supplement to their rulebook. Though, in a later tweet in that thread*, he is correct in identifying this text as being addressed in said rulebook’s section D-06. He misses the part where the current edition of the rulebook was published back in June, and the rest of that thread’s discussion of whether or not this is a precedent seems like speculation being passed off as fact.
* https://mobile.twitter.com/jakekgearhart/status/1580908722632941569
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n.b. the fact it’s in the June rulebook doesn’t mean it wasn’t in earlier editions, either. The main point being the Q&A isn’t breaking news, nor are previous Q&As used as precedent. I think one of the more productive things the English playerbase could do is get a fluent translation of the Japanese guidebook. The baseline translation work I did do the JP guidebook a few weeks ago* suggests it’s a very comprehensive and logically organized text that would probably be a boon not just for players, but judges and anyone else who finds it a bit of a slog to sift through EN compendium rulings.
*i.e. when I was trying to resolve the entire ‘effect’ thing you’d have to pay me to revisit..
Chiffon
I believe that there’s a legit English version of the advanced rulebook, assuming you’re referring to the “Advanced Players’ Rulebook”. This rulebook is also published in the Asian market (except for South Korea and China).
The English version is produced for Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines, and Hong Kong (English circuit) as they use English TPCi cards. However, it hasn’t been updated since its original publishing in 2018, back when Asian circuits support first started so hopefully there were no translation errors.
https://asia.pokemon-card.com/sg/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2022/08/advanced-manual_EN.pdf
D-06 …has X
“Attacks that can be used due to effects of Trainer cards or Abilities and the like are not treated as attacks that the Pokémon has. Only attacks that are printed on the Pokémon card are treated as attacks that the Pokémon has.”
It still technically has no precedent though, solely because Forest Seal Stone is the first Trainer card with an Ability and the rule only mentions attacks.
televisionnation
The interaction between an attack like Amnesia & a permanent Technical Machine (a Technical Machine that stays attached instead of being discarded at the end of the turn) like Technical Machine TS-1 would be similar in that Amnesia wouldn’t be able to block the Devoluter attack since it’s not printed on the Pokémon itself.
The Path to the Peak/Forest Sealed Stone ruling makes sense since it’s consistent with how Amnesia/Technical Machine TS-1 works but it’s been such a long time since we’ve had Technical Machines that stayed attached after use (& that weren’t GX/Z-moves).
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I mean, yeah. Even if you don’t want to go all the way back to the Technical Machine cards, the way Amnesia, Memory Skip interactions, etc. with mechanics like Memory Capsule et al. already illustrated the difference between a Pokémon having an attack and a Pokémon having access to an attack. It’s only logical to continue that concept to “the difference between a Pokémon having an ability and a Pokémon having access to an ability”.