Shaymin-EX · Roaring Skies (ROS) #77a

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   Henry VIII

   (4 years ago)

   I LOVE this artwork

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   Ambassador

   (3 years ago)

   I’ve forgotten; what was the motivation for introducing the Yellow A concept with Gen 6 cards? The reasoning is obvious in SM – the English and some other international editions of the game decided to not adopt the regulation mark system (so that it became awkward when they finally capitulated at the start of SWSH and we started with “D”) – but for these Gen 6 cards, could they not have achieved the same thing with legality by issuing them as XY Promos?

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     JackAmbassador

     (3 years ago)

     I believe that printing cards as newly-numbered XY Black Star Promos would have kept them in rotation for longer, due to the fact that in the XY series, specific promos were never rotated out – it was always “N and up” that were kept in, without exception. So if this had been printed as (for example) XY201, it would have stayed in rotation for another year after Roaring Skies was rotated.

     I was so frustrated that regulation marks weren’t introduced with Sun & Moon… especially when you look at the numbering / ordering nightmare that is Hidden Fates’ Shiny Vault.

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       DaneeBoundJack

       (3 years ago)

       Regulation marks re introduced to the Japanese TCG in an attempt to make a more coherent rotation system that sort of replicated how Play Pokémon had been doing it since they were in charge.

       Prior to that, sets were rotated out of their standard regulation on a block-by-block basis, such as in the first half of 2018, where all cards from the XY, XY BREAK and Sun/Moon sets were allowed, whereas in the second half of 2018 only Sun/Moon series cards were allowed.
       (Yeah, imagine a 2017/2018 standard format where full-power Night March was still legal.)

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         DaneeBoundDaneeBound

         (3 years ago)

         And Shaymin EX too.
         In hindsight, Play! Pokémon had the right idea here.

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           AmbassadorDaneeBound

           (3 years ago)

           Can you clarify what you mean? Play!’s approach worked fine up until PCL wanted to create alt arts of cards spanning across different sets and overlapping the usual legality boundaries, and once that happened, the approach should’ve been changed immediately. I don’t see how refusing to adopt the regulation mark system was a good idea whatsoever and – though I doubt it’s actually the case – it’s funny to think of GX Ultra Shiny (and the subsequent mess of a set list that Hidden Fates ended up being) as a successful exercise in twisting their arms to force them to adopt it.

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           AmbassadorDaneeBound

           (3 years ago)

           (Oh, I might’ve misread. Do you mean they had the right idea about the Alternate A here? Yeah, worked well enough, but only as a stopgap.)

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           AmbassadorDaneeBound

           (3 years ago)

           (But originally I was wondering why they didn’t just take an approach of giving these cards a special promo numbering, so that the legality list during the relevant periods could be, e.g. XYP 151-211, but these cards would be 211-onward stapled onto the end of the collection, and just understood to not be legal. Given everything discussed, I still think a weird set of rules that’d affect players only temporarily would’ve been a better approach than a weird set of card annotations that affects collectors permanently.)