Spiritomb · Chilling Reign (CRE) #103

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   Twylis

   (4 years ago)

   This card annoys me. It’s *such* a thorough counter to decks like Night March and Mad Party, in addition to making Vengeance-style decks almost completely nonviable. If Ghostly Cries needed a specific energy type, or if it only put damage counters like Oricorio · Guardians Rising (GRI) #56, or if it only shuffled all your opponent’s pokemon back into their deck like Karen · XY Promos (XYP) #XY177, then it wouldn’t be a big deal. But it’s not great when a card is such a universal counter to an archetype with the *only* deterrent to running it being deck space. I can’t help but feel Creatures wouldn’t have made such a tailor-made counter to these archetypes if they weren’t almost always led by affordable single-prize pokemon.

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     Jiří z PoděbradTwylis

     (3 years ago)

     There’s some mercy, though: if you use a card that protects you from the effects of attacks, then the shuffling clause of “Ghostly Cries” never activates. Key is the phrase “IF you placed any damage counters in this way”
     (Ambassador elaborates on damage-counter-placement as an “effect” in his comments over on #SWSH162 Mewtwo V-UNION)

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       Jiří z PoděbradJiří z Poděbrad

       (3 years ago)

       Wash Energy and Espeon VMAX are probably the easiest options to slot into a Night March/Mad Party deck, but there are plenty of attacks that would forestall Ghostly Cries.
       https://pkmncards.com/?s=text%3A%22effects+of+attacks%22

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         AmbassadorJiří z Poděbrad

         (3 years ago)

         Same source as most of my comments of late, pokemon-card.com/rules/ Q&A engine;

         𝑸. If there is a Pokémon on the opponent’s side of the field with Big Parasol attached [and I infer we’re meant to assume it’s their *only* Pokémon on the field for the sake of this Q&A], and I use Ghostly Cries, I won’t be able to put a damage counter on them, but can I still return any of their Pokémon in the discard pile back to the deck?
         𝑨. No.

         (This Q&A seems very obvious given the EN text of Ghostly Cries, but the JP text doesn’t have anything along the lines of the “if you put placed any damage counters in this way” so I can see how it came up.)

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