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  20. Henry VIII

    Anyone using this card against RS Urshify decks? There may be some good potential there–but I suppose you’d only include this card in your deck if you can see your opponent’s decklist beforehand and knew what they were playing.

  24. Jon

    I believe this is the only reason why Dragon Type returned to the TCG. I’m thrilled, don’t get me wrong, but I think that if it weren’t for this Pokémon, we may never have seen Dragon Type again in the TCG. Not sure if that is true or not, just me personal opinion.

  32. MartinAbry

    Good spot. I’d say yes, but then again I’d say yes to Boss’s Orders, so my opinion is void here XD But what about Flannery or Agatha too? Similarly, Seeker, that I brought up earlier? These all disrupt your opponent’s Pokémon, which doesn’t seem to count as disrupting your opponent. Avery does stipulate “your opponent discards Pokémon”, rather than _you_ discarding _their_ Pokémon, so maybe?

    But the further question that arises from this; what about Team Yell Grunt? “Put an Energy attached to 1 of your opponent’s Pokémon into their hand”. If you’re not affecting the cards already in their hand, does it count as affecting “their hand”? I’d say yes.

  35. MartinMartin

    I suppose they might be covering all their bases, incase they ever print a Supporter that puts an effect on your opponent. Or maybe they already have a plan to print a card with kind of effect. Something like “Until your next turn, your opponent can’t play any Item cards”, on a Supporter.

  36. MartinLeoBN

    Thanks for this, Leon, especially going through all that effort with the Supporter cards. Looks like it’s just a random bit of text to “tease” you that Boss’s Orders might be prevented, but isn’t XD

    As an aside, after playing enough MTG, had it not been for this discussion I’d probably have said that this *would* stop anything that “targets” you. That would have included Boss’s Orders, Seeker, etc. Alas, Pokémon is a bit more vague with its wording of things :)

  37. LeoBNMartin

    Regadring to affect you, I couln’t find a Supporter that does that. However, there is a Marowak’s Ability that prevent effects of attacks done to you or your hand by your opponent’s Pokémon.It’s the only other card I’ve found that has “to you or your hand”:
    Marowak · Fates Collide (FCO) #37

    This remembers me of attacks that can affect the player. Here are some other examples, as Abry posted some before:
    Manectric ex · Deoxys (DX) #101
    Vileplume · Legends Awakened (LA) #45
    Aerodactyl GL · Rising Rivals (RR) #55
    Spiritomb · Phantom Forces (PHF) #55
    Giratina-EX · Ancient Origins (AOR) #57
    Noivern-GX · Burning Shadows (BUS) #99
    Alolan Golem-GX · Crimson Invasion (CIN) #34
    Shadow Rider Calyrex V · Chilling Reign (CRE) #074

  41. AbryMartin

    Do you think that the “Team Battle” format (2v2 and 3v3 maybe), though now is a “for fun” format, may be involved in this? Is that format going to be renewed/restored by TPC? In that case, Milotic protects you and not “your Team-mate”, right?

  42. Stuart Newsby

    I wonder why cards from the Radiant Collection–and Generations in general–aren’t worth more, especially considering that Generations boosters are going for about $50 each. https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/187238/pokemon-generations-generations-booster-pack?xid=pi66ccfc93-f647-45c9-aa2a-d9064539b957&page=1&Language=English
    Seems weird to me that the rarest card in a set this rare/unique would be worth this little. ($25 on average)

  46. AbryMartin

    Uh, I’m blind, I focused on the last part and not the “supporter” part. I’m sorry, checking by searching keywords I have to agree to your op; it seems all cards refers to the hand or a specific card, and not “your opponent” directly (except for Marnie, N and the similar cards that say “Your opponent shuffles…”; maybe Guzma?).

  50. Zack Clem

    I HAVE THIS POKEMON AT MY HOUSE IDK WHERE THE LAST PLACE I PUT IT NO CAP I SWEAR TO GOD HIMSELF I COULD HAVE GOTTEN 500 DOLLARS BUT KNOW IT’S OUT THE DRAIN I AM SEARCHING MY (WHOLE) HOUSE FOR IT !!!!!!!!!!!!

  51. Martin

    Thanks for the replies, Arby. I am unsure if any of these cards would covered by Milotic, however, as Milotic stipulates only Supporter cards, and not Abilities.

    Some of your cards bring up ideas with me though. If those cards DID get prevented by Milotic, why would Boss’s Orders not be (“Switch 1 of _your opponents_ Benched Polemon”). Although with Boss’s Orders you get to choose, it would still “target” your opponent like these Abilities.

    The reason I ask is because I plan to run this in my cube with older cards, things like Seeker · Triumphant (TM) #88, and there are going to be a few interaction questions that come up.

  53. Abry, againMartin

    Phione‘s ability: Whirlpool Suction
    Once during your turn (before your attack), if this Pokémon is on your Bench, you may have _your opponent_ switch their Active Pokémon with 1 of their Benched Pokémon.

    Trevenant‘s Perplexing Forest : 20
    You may have _your opponent_ switch their Active Pokémon with 1 of their Benched Pokémon.

    Escape Rope maybe too

    Omastar‘s Fossil Bind:
    As long as you have fewer Pokémon in play than your opponent, _they can’t play_ any Item cards from their hand.

  55. Martin

    I understand this stops cards like Marnie (SSH) #169 and N (NVI) #92, but I feel I am feel I am missing some other cards that this also stops. It seems to make a distinction between “you OR your hand”. What cards are covered by the inclusion of “you”? If none, why is this card not worded as just “prevent all effects of that card done to your hand”, minus the “you or”?

  56. Otaku

    Am I doing something wrong? I went to search for cards with “[W] Pokémon” in their text, which used to be the easy way to find effects that referenced Water Pokémon. However, now it seems to just be showing me most (yet not all) Water Pokémon plus Water support. Am I just misreading all these extra cards, like the one above?